Re: Re: Angels and demons
By: jimmylogan to Boraxman on Tue Aug 05 2025 04:32 pm

Just to make sure I follow your train of thought, you mean the
culture that created the idea that we should be held accountable?
Or that there is a God that is above that? I want to know what you
So I ask again, are you saying that NO ONE should be judged
at all?

I'm saying that the Middle Eastern Semite culture created this idea, so it is a reflection of their values.

The point is that we are all 'guitly' - and God in the form of man,
Jesus the Christ, took the punishment for all that guilt. You say
He takes no responsibility - but I say He took the ULTIMATE
responsibility and took the punishment, the weight, the suffering.

And then He STILL loves you enough to let you decide if you want to
accept the pardon offered or not.

Again, this makes no sense. This is from Middle Eastern Semitic thinking. IT makes as much sense as people today saying that White people need to be held responsible for what happened in the past, for things we didn't do.

It's an awful, self-hating ideology, and it does not come from God.

No human being deserves to burn for one day, let alone eternity, for

Two questions - 1) where do you get the moral ground to say that
no one should have to pay for thier sin?

2) Are you equating 'morraly righteous' and terrible acts with
the actual teachings of Jesus?

I get it from myself. God is going to burn me for eternity, for something I DIDNT DO. Well, since I don't believe this is actually the case, I don't see it as a reflection of God, but of the people who think this is just.

YOU are saying this is just, so YOU believe this. It is YOU who is passing on moral accountability and responsibility.

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Jimmy,

Have you considered that hell is a choice? If someone says, "I don't
want to have anything to do with a God that would do this" is
basically getting their wish?

In that regard, "God is being a Gentleman"...giving folks what they
want.

The point is that we are all 'guitly' - and God in the form of
man, Jesus the Christ, took the punishment for all that guilt.
You say He takes no responsibility - but I say He took the
ULTIMATE responsibility and took the punishment, the weight,
the suffering.

And then He STILL loves you enough to let you decide if you
want to accept the pardon offered or not.

Folks resent the fact that "It's God's Creation, and it's His
Rules". Yet, as the Apostle Paul noted in 1 Corinthians 1:18, "The
Preaching Of The Cross is to them who perish (die in their sins),
foolishness and stupidity. But to the saved, it is the Power of
Almighty God".

As the late Hal Lindsey noted, "If the believers ON Jesus, and NOT
just IN Him are wrong...the most we'll lose are a few petty sins,
which don't make anyone happy, anyway. But, if the unbeliever is
wrong...they will spend eternally paying the debt...that they gambled
with their soul, and lost it!!".

In short, one day, we will know who is right.

The one thing God requires is to "believe on The One He has sent".
Yet, He does give each of us free will and choice to say YES or NO.
Basically, it takes no decision on anyone's part to go to Hell...but,
it DOES take a decision on one's part to go to Heaven.

At a church service years ago, this individual shouted out "I wish
God would give me what I deserve!!"...and the preacher retorted "You
had better be careful in what you ask...He just might do it". If all
of us got what we deserve, we would've been stamped out of existence
long ago.

Daryl

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Daryl Stout wrote to jimmylogan <=-

Jimmy,

Hey Daryl! Haven't heard from you in a long time! Hope
you are well!

Have you considered that hell is a choice? If someone says, "I don't
want to have anything to do with a God that would do this" is
basically getting their wish?

In that regard, "God is being a Gentleman"...giving folks what they want.

Yep!

The point is that we are all 'guitly' - and God in the form of
man, Jesus the Christ, took the punishment for all that guilt.
You say He takes no responsibility - but I say He took the
ULTIMATE responsibility and took the punishment, the weight,
the suffering.

And then He STILL loves you enough to let you decide if you
want to accept the pardon offered or not.

Folks resent the fact that "It's God's Creation, and it's His
Rules". Yet, as the Apostle Paul noted in 1 Corinthians 1:18, "The Preaching Of The Cross is to them who perish (die in their sins), foolishness and stupidity. But to the saved, it is the Power of
Almighty God".

Agreed!!!


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Jimmy,

Hey Daryl! Haven't heard from you in a long time! Hope
you are well!

First, as the meme notes "I'm only one step away from being rich...
all I need is money". <G>

Second, after my younger brother's suicide just over 14 months ago,
and ending up with a panic attack/nervous breakdown, that put me in
the psychiatric ward for a week, I'm doing better.

... He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly

I'm a victim of coicumstance. Time to do "The Curly Shuffle", and
look at the grouse!! Nyuk! Nyuk! Nyuk! Nyuk! Nyuk! <BG>

Daryl

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Daryl Stout wrote to jimmylogan <=-

Jimmy,

Hey Daryl! Haven't heard from you in a long time! Hope
you are well!

First, as the meme notes "I'm only one step away from being rich...
all I need is money". <G>

I started on my second million today! Finally gave up on the first...

Second, after my younger brother's suicide just over 14 months ago,
and ending up with a panic attack/nervous breakdown, that put me in
the psychiatric ward for a week, I'm doing better.

I am so sorry to here that. :-( But glad you're doing better!


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Jimmy,

I started on my second million today! Finally gave up on the
first...

LOL!! Sounds like a good tagline candidate.

I am so sorry to hear that. :-( But glad you're doing better!

I decided to cancel the house insurance (hated to do it), but it
didn't make much sense to have the insurance, if you can't pay the
deductibles. I'm just trusting in The Good Lord to protect my home
from damages.

The "extra money" will go toward food (down to just a few packets
of tuna salad), and maybe to save up for the HandiHams Radio Camp
next September. I am in sore need of a bit of a vacation to get away
from things for a little bit.

Daryl, N5VLZ

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Re: Re: Angels and demons
By: Daryl Stout to jimmylogan on Thu Sep 25 2025 09:43 am

I decided to cancel the house insurance (hated to do it), but it
didn't make much sense to have the insurance, if you can't pay the deductibles. I'm just trusting in The Good Lord to protect my home
from damages.

The "extra money" will go toward food (down to just a few packets of
tuna salad), and maybe to save up for the HandiHams Radio Camp next September. I am in sore need of a bit of a vacation to get away from

you should try working. that's a good way to make money.
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Daryl Stout wrote to jimmylogan <=-

Jimmy,

I started on my second million today! Finally gave up on the
first...

LOL!! Sounds like a good tagline candidate.

You make it and I'll steal it! :-)

I am so sorry to hear that. :-( But glad you're doing better!

I decided to cancel the house insurance (hated to do it), but it
didn't make much sense to have the insurance, if you can't pay the deductibles. I'm just trusting in The Good Lord to protect my home
from damages.

I saw on another net where you mentioned not having anyone
to leave it to or something? I get it! "Self insured."

The "extra money" will go toward food (down to just a few packets
of tuna salad), and maybe to save up for the HandiHams Radio Camp
next September. I am in sore need of a bit of a vacation to get away
from things for a little bit.

Understood!!!


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Jimmy,

LOL!! Sounds like a good tagline candidate.

You make it and I'll steal it! :-)

This isn't breaking the 8th commandment...it's gathering research. <G>

I decided to cancel the house insurance (hated to do it), but it
didn't make much sense to have the insurance, if you can't pay the deductibles. I'm just trusting in The Good Lord to protect my home
from damages.

I saw on another net where you mentioned not having anyone
to leave it to or something? I get it! "Self insured."

That's it. I'm the last of my line. My Dad and my wife died not 3 months apart 18 1/2 years ago...my Mom died just over 6 years ago, and as noted,
my brother killed himself 15 months ago. My wife and I didn't have any kids, because of medical issues for both of us.

The "extra money" will go toward food (down to just a few packets
of tuna salad), and maybe to save up for the HandiHams Radio Camp
next September. I am in sore need of a bit of a vacation to get away
from things for a little bit.

Understood!!!

The last time I had a train trip was in September, 2009...and the last
time I was outside of Arkansas on an extended vacation was when I went to
the Huntsville Hamfest in August, 2017.

... The number you have dailed...Nine-one-one...has been changed.

It was changed to a non-working number, as someone didn't pay the phone
bill. <G>

Daryl

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Daryl Stout wrote to jimmylogan <=-

The last time I had a train trip was in September, 2009...and the
last time I was outside of Arkansas on an extended vacation was when I went to the Huntsville Hamfest in August, 2017.

That was around the time you and I 'met' online! I dialed into
your BBS one day and we live chatted. YOU are the reason I
got serious about HAM. :-)

And I've been to Huntsville twice now.


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